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		<title>Comment on Interfaith Dialogue in Brazil by Giridhari Das</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giridhari Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took place in Brasilia-DF, Brazil.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Interfaith Dialogue in Brazil by Subala das</title>
		<link>http://pandavas.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/interfaith-dialogue-in-brazil/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Subala das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giridhari prabhu, what city the interfaith took place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giridhari prabhu, what city the interfaith took place?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gurus in ISKCON by Babydas</title>
		<link>http://pandavas.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/gurus-in-iskcon/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Babydas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present (new and improved system that is being put in place).  Apply before 29Feb &#039;10!!

1) There has to be 10 local Brahmans that approve the candidate
2) All the Local GBCs have to Approve - (There is a North American - Committee of 3 GBC men, that Bhakti Marg Swami is working with  -  One  of  them  is Annuttama Prabhu).
3)The Candidate has to take Guru Training Course (1 or 2 week course for 2 years) (which was initiated at Juhu) Mumbai couple years ago.
 
The system presently will be similar to Sanyas Approval which - NO OBJECTION RULE - (you are already familiar with).

The following items which are also necessary according to individuals situation.

4) The Married Candidate should have permission from the immediate family members (or spouse). The candidate must have good marriage record.
5)Of course the candidate should be in Good standing with the local Board and Temple Authorities.
6)Most important of all is that the person is well versed in ISKCON&#039;s Philosophy and Srila Prabhupada&#039;s mission.
7)Another Most important item is the person&#039;s Sadhana is strong.
8)In some cases, they have to have permission from their initiating guru.
9)The person is naturally exibiting the qualities of a guru (by personally doing that service of siksha, and training junior devotees) 

This is a new system, still being implemented. 
---The GBC body knows that they will have to deal with each case individually apart from the first 3 pre-requisites. Eventually, they will have a &#039;Standard 10 brahman committee&#039; in every local area. 
---But presently, the candidate can choose his/her own 10 brahmans who will approve of his qualifications. 
---This committee presently is NOT required to interview or question the individual. 
---It is simply done even by a letter of approval. 
---The brahmans are usually senior known leaders who are holding various posts of important services in ISKCON. E.g. Temple president, Preachers, Pujaris etc.

Usually, the persons nominated by the local GBCs are preachers who have been making devotees over the years and have exemplary qualifications in terms of leadership qualities etc. These devotees also normally have aspiring devotees also (a natural consequence).
 
This year the GBCs decided at Mayapur meetings that they should allow/approve women devotees to become diksa gurus in ISKCON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present (new and improved system that is being put in place).  Apply before 29Feb &#8216;10!!</p>
<p>1) There has to be 10 local Brahmans that approve the candidate<br />
2) All the Local GBCs have to Approve &#8211; (There is a North American &#8211; Committee of 3 GBC men, that Bhakti Marg Swami is working with  &#8211;  One  of  them  is Annuttama Prabhu).<br />
3)The Candidate has to take Guru Training Course (1 or 2 week course for 2 years) (which was initiated at Juhu) Mumbai couple years ago.</p>
<p>The system presently will be similar to Sanyas Approval which &#8211; NO OBJECTION RULE &#8211; (you are already familiar with).</p>
<p>The following items which are also necessary according to individuals situation.</p>
<p>4) The Married Candidate should have permission from the immediate family members (or spouse). The candidate must have good marriage record.<br />
5)Of course the candidate should be in Good standing with the local Board and Temple Authorities.<br />
6)Most important of all is that the person is well versed in ISKCON&#8217;s Philosophy and Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s mission.<br />
7)Another Most important item is the person&#8217;s Sadhana is strong.<br />
8)In some cases, they have to have permission from their initiating guru.<br />
9)The person is naturally exibiting the qualities of a guru (by personally doing that service of siksha, and training junior devotees) </p>
<p>This is a new system, still being implemented.<br />
&#8212;The GBC body knows that they will have to deal with each case individually apart from the first 3 pre-requisites. Eventually, they will have a &#8216;Standard 10 brahman committee&#8217; in every local area.<br />
&#8212;But presently, the candidate can choose his/her own 10 brahmans who will approve of his qualifications.<br />
&#8212;This committee presently is NOT required to interview or question the individual.<br />
&#8212;It is simply done even by a letter of approval.<br />
&#8212;The brahmans are usually senior known leaders who are holding various posts of important services in ISKCON. E.g. Temple president, Preachers, Pujaris etc.</p>
<p>Usually, the persons nominated by the local GBCs are preachers who have been making devotees over the years and have exemplary qualifications in terms of leadership qualities etc. These devotees also normally have aspiring devotees also (a natural consequence).</p>
<p>This year the GBCs decided at Mayapur meetings that they should allow/approve women devotees to become diksa gurus in ISKCON.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gurus in ISKCON by dfj</title>
		<link>http://pandavas.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/gurus-in-iskcon/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>dfj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree more with your analysis. This is a well structured and argued piece. From my point of view, if an institution is in need of reform and refuses to reform itself, it can simply be worked around. I have my siksa gurus and the most prominent among them is who I take to heart as my diksa guru, although he cannot give diksa by ISKCON&#039;s authorisation. So the only real difference is I don&#039;t get a spiritual name. Oh well, that will keep me humble - but it is a socialising issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more with your analysis. This is a well structured and argued piece. From my point of view, if an institution is in need of reform and refuses to reform itself, it can simply be worked around. I have my siksa gurus and the most prominent among them is who I take to heart as my diksa guru, although he cannot give diksa by ISKCON&#8217;s authorisation. So the only real difference is I don&#8217;t get a spiritual name. Oh well, that will keep me humble &#8211; but it is a socialising issue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gurus in ISKCON by Subala das</title>
		<link>http://pandavas.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/gurus-in-iskcon/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Subala das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good conclusion in a last paragraph. I think some devotees still hope that their guru secretly at night doing rasa lila with Krishna, or something of that sort what they read in CC or in any other confidencial literature....

Guru&#039;s devotion and merit should be judged, like SP states, how many people become Krishna Conscious because of their instructions and their lifestyle (daily activities).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good conclusion in a last paragraph. I think some devotees still hope that their guru secretly at night doing rasa lila with Krishna, or something of that sort what they read in CC or in any other confidencial literature&#8230;.</p>
<p>Guru&#8217;s devotion and merit should be judged, like SP states, how many people become Krishna Conscious because of their instructions and their lifestyle (daily activities).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gurus in ISKCON by Giridhari Das</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giridhari Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not really good enough. The fundamental problems remain, even if you increase the number of diksha-gurus in the present system. What we need is a change of the system and, more importantly, a profound change in our understanding of the role of the diksha-guru.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not really good enough. The fundamental problems remain, even if you increase the number of diksha-gurus in the present system. What we need is a change of the system and, more importantly, a profound change in our understanding of the role of the diksha-guru.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gurus in ISKCON by Gitaji</title>
		<link>http://pandavas.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/gurus-in-iskcon/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, but the GBCs are giving  their blessings in their services.   Presently  the GBCs want more qualified devotees to come forward to take the role of gurus.  The GBC body keeps a check and balance otherwise, so many bogus people in the name of guruship  will exploit innocent devotees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, but the GBCs are giving  their blessings in their services.   Presently  the GBCs want more qualified devotees to come forward to take the role of gurus.  The GBC body keeps a check and balance otherwise, so many bogus people in the name of guruship  will exploit innocent devotees.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What to do with Narayana Maharaja&#8217;s Disciples? by Sita-pati das</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sita-pati das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My statement becomes less ambiguous if you separate the two clauses into separate sentences:

&quot;Take initiation from there and you are banned from doing service in ISKCON facilities.

And in many cases you are banned from any kind of participation in ISKCON facilities.&quot;

So I&#039;m talking about &quot;service in ISKCON facilities&quot;. Hope this makes it my meaning clearer.

Please note that this is not prescriptive - I&#039;m not  expressing approval or objection to this policy. It is descriptive - I&#039;m describing the situation as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My statement becomes less ambiguous if you separate the two clauses into separate sentences:</p>
<p>&#8220;Take initiation from there and you are banned from doing service in ISKCON facilities.</p>
<p>And in many cases you are banned from any kind of participation in ISKCON facilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m talking about &#8220;service in ISKCON facilities&#8221;. Hope this makes it my meaning clearer.</p>
<p>Please note that this is not prescriptive &#8211; I&#8217;m not  expressing approval or objection to this policy. It is descriptive &#8211; I&#8217;m describing the situation as it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What to do with Narayana Maharaja&#8217;s Disciples? by Govinda dasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Govinda dasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can anybody be banned from doing service? Thats an oxymoron! If a jiva wants to do service, there is no question of anyone banning her. Not even Krishna will check spontaneous loving service. To even state such thing just shows how little Iskcon devotees know and why it is that Narayana Maharaja makes such impact on those who are lucky enough to want to learn something. Sita-pati das, have you ever even understood the concept of pure devotional service: anyabhilasita sunyan, jana karmadi anavrita, and so forth? My God, unbeliavable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anybody be banned from doing service? Thats an oxymoron! If a jiva wants to do service, there is no question of anyone banning her. Not even Krishna will check spontaneous loving service. To even state such thing just shows how little Iskcon devotees know and why it is that Narayana Maharaja makes such impact on those who are lucky enough to want to learn something. Sita-pati das, have you ever even understood the concept of pure devotional service: anyabhilasita sunyan, jana karmadi anavrita, and so forth? My God, unbeliavable!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Srila Acharyadeva in Govardhana Lila Ashram by Jeannette</title>
		<link>http://pandavas.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/srila-acharyadeva-in-govardhana-lila-ashram/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeannette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hare Krishna Prabhu, PAMHO.
I am an aspirant of Acharyadeva and I was wondering if you know where I can obtain CD&#039;s or MP3&#039;s of lectures from the past 3 years as I do not have anything that recent.

Thank you.
Your humble servant,

Bhaktin Jeannette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hare Krishna Prabhu, PAMHO.<br />
I am an aspirant of Acharyadeva and I was wondering if you know where I can obtain CD&#8217;s or MP3&#8217;s of lectures from the past 3 years as I do not have anything that recent.</p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
Your humble servant,</p>
<p>Bhaktin Jeannette</p>
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